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Old Nov 20, 2007, 12:09 AM // 00:09   #1
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Cool Swords -> Axes [thats an arrow not higher sign]

Lets see i been using swords for quite a while, and got a few that i use like sskai in pve, shocking highlander sword of fortitude for pvp and shiros sword sometimes when i want to mess around a bit in pvp.

Mostly use highlander with conjure build in arenas (RA):
[skill]Healing Signet[/skill][skill]Sever Artery[/skill][skill]Gash[/skill][skill]Dragon Slash[/skill][skill]"For Great Justice!"[/skill]<[[skill]Shield Bash[/skill]or[skill]Shock[/skill]]>[skill]Conjure Lightning[/skill][skill]Resurrection Signet[/skill]

for AB mostly:

[skill]Healing Signet[/skill][skill]Sever Artery[/skill][skill]Gash[/skill][skill]Dragon Slash[/skill][skill]"For Great Justice!"[/skill][skill]Sprint[/skill][skill]Bull's Strike[/skill][skill]Conjure Lightning[/skill]
There are a few more i got but not going to list all of them...

the problem with these sword builds is that dragon slash is my main dmg skill but it takes very long to get up to that point to use it and if its blocked while with chain in with FGJ its just pointless. Also i cant fit any attack speed increase in there... It works great for pve but not too awsome for pvp, although sumtimes its just a few slashes and i can pretty much own sum people like other mesmers, necros, eles, monks rarely, other warriors cuz of conjure and KD and dervishes if im lucky and 1v1

I was thinking of switching to axes and i have enugh money, unless 50k isint enugh to buy a decent axe. What im asking is:
1) Is it worth switching to axes for pvp and sticking with swords for pve?
2) What are some good mods for axes? What about green axes themselves?
3) What build can i use as a starter with faction and prophecy skills only?



Keep in mind i got factions and proph only! And im hoping for builds with adrenalin, my armors are: luxon set with survivors and sum +10arm while attacking and +10 over all i think. Ty for all ur help.

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Old Nov 20, 2007, 12:20 AM // 00:20   #2
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At least run [card]Sun and Moon Slash[/card].. it works well with Conjures..

1. Yes, it's worth it to switch to axes for PvP and to stick with sword for PvE.
2. Good mods for axes? it's the same with swords. Vamp, Zealous, Elementals
3. Shock Axe. But you'll have to use Radiant insignias.

http://www.pvxwiki.com/wiki/Build:W/E_Shock_Axe
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Old Nov 20, 2007, 12:32 AM // 00:32   #3
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yea ^ what he said

Also in pve I highly recomend you use Deadly Riposte since it's just such a wonderful skill that (I wish axes had), since it bleed, blocks, and does a good amount of arour ignoring damage.

In pvp stick with Shield Bash. Sins hate it. I love it
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Old Nov 20, 2007, 01:39 AM // 01:39   #4
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You should use barbarous slice instead of sever artery in the first build seeing as you don't have a stance.
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Old Nov 20, 2007, 01:45 AM // 01:45   #5
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its in nightfall i only got factions and proph >.<
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Old Nov 20, 2007, 02:16 AM // 02:16   #6
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The title fails. ( How can someone possibly fail at naming their own thread). I don't get how the title goes along with the post at all.But than again you have a better post than I had expected.When I clicked this thread I was expecting this :" LULULZULZULZ S0RDS R TEH POWNAGE. AX TEH SUXZ0R MANG

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Old Nov 20, 2007, 05:26 AM // 05:26   #7
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in pvp axes and swords are pretty closely balanced, axes are used more though.

in pve axes are easily more powerful than swords because of the AoE attacks.
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Old Nov 20, 2007, 09:01 AM // 09:01   #8
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Watch out Coloneh, you're about to get mobbed by Dragon Slash worshippers!!!
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Old Nov 20, 2007, 10:00 AM // 10:00   #9
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Watch out Coloneh, you're about to get mobbed by Dragon Slash worshippers!!!
Way to take all the fun out of it, meanie.
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Old Nov 20, 2007, 10:55 AM // 10:55   #10
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^^ Lol, sry.
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Old Nov 20, 2007, 11:52 AM // 11:52   #11
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in pve axes are easily more powerful than swords because of the AoE attacks.
That would be true, except for the fact that Dragon Slash + "Save Yourselves!" exists.

And Leprechaun, I'm not a DSlash worshipper.
I just happen to realize that DSlash > PvE.
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Old Nov 20, 2007, 12:00 PM // 12:00   #12
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I'm not going to shy away from being a Dslash Worshiper.

Guild Wars is a game based on giving you many options to achieve the same goal. In any system like that, there must always be one best option. It just so happens that, for a PvE Warrior, Dragon Slash is that option and the numbers back it up.

I know its starting to sound like an echo in this forum, but there's "Dslash Worshipers" for a reason.
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Old Nov 20, 2007, 12:27 PM // 12:27   #13
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I'm not going to shy away from being a Dslash Worshiper.

Guild Wars is a game based on giving you many options to achieve the same goal. In any system like that, there must always be one best option. It just so happens that, for a PvE Warrior, Dragon Slash is that option and the numbers back it up.

I know its starting to sound like an echo in this forum, but there's "Dslash Worshipers" for a reason.
+1
But I wonder if Dragon slash worshippers are not more FGJ-Save Yourselves! worshippers. Without the buff to FGJ and without SY!, dragonslashers would have remained dead and triple choppers would still be the kings.
I would add that for easy mode, where SY! is not that needed, a triple chop cyclone axe warrior buffed with splinter weapon and paragons shouts is quite effective in mauling normal mobs.
I find also Sever-Gash sword combo pretty lousy in PvE, especially in Gwen where half of the mobs cannot bleed, whereas an axe warrior inflict DW no matter what (ended putting the DW attack on my paragon hero to free space on my Dslash bar).
Well OP can do like he wants, PvE is PvE. But I advise him to put SY! on his bar as soon as he reaches the first Luxon/Kurzick title track tier.

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Old Nov 20, 2007, 02:18 PM // 14:18   #14
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But I wonder if Dragon slash worshippers are not more FGJ-Save Yourselves! worshippers. Without the buff to FGJ and without SY!, dragonslashers would have remained dead and triple choppers would still be the kings.
Not quite sure I follow. Prior to the FGJ! buff I could go Dragon Slash -> Galrath Slash -> Silverwing Slash and repeat for the whole 20 seconds, or simply Dragon Slash -> Sun and Moon Slash repeat. All the buff to FGJ! did was allow you to mash one attack skill instead of two or three, it's not like current warriors aren't bringing three attack skills still.

Fairly confident search would reveal discussions that Dragon Slash put out the highest DPS well before Nightfall was even introduced.
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Old Nov 20, 2007, 03:00 PM // 15:00   #15
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Sorry if I offended anyone with my comment, I didnt say "Dragon Slash Worshipper" in a nasty sense.

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Old Nov 20, 2007, 04:14 PM // 16:14   #16
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i didnt mean to say > as in swords are better then axes lol, its suppose to be an arrow

but as always all threads in this forum get their topic changed by sum person and everyone discusses that after
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Old Nov 21, 2007, 06:09 AM // 06:09   #17
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Aaah, so you have seen the light. That's nice

Shock Axe is great, go with that, especially since you only have Prophecies + Factions.
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Old Nov 21, 2007, 08:32 AM // 08:32   #18
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I really liked Tripplechop (+ Conjure) until the overpowered PvE skills got introduced. Currently there's no real reason to run anything else than dragonslash if you want to maximize efficiency. Other than that I'd go back to axe anytime.
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Old Nov 23, 2007, 01:46 AM // 01:46   #19
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nice, i agree swords are better than axes, but sometimes axes are quite good in PvE like Triple Chop and Cyclone Axe went you have to deal with multiples foes. Other than that, swords are better, preferably [skill]Dragon Slash[/skill] spam build.
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Old Nov 23, 2007, 02:12 AM // 02:12   #20
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I agree that dragon slash is fun and the damage is really intense. but the thing is that in PvE AoE is king. single target damage just dosnt compare to AoE damage, its limitless. and as long as mobs bunch up AoE will reign supreme. but go ahead and use Dslah, its not bad, its just not as good as an axe.
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